Curse

wheel · Apr 25, 2006, 12:15 PM // 12:15

This guide is not for the faint of heart. This guide won't hold your hand, tell you that every build out there works, or be easy to execute efficiently. That said, this build is very good at what it does. If you need skill points for your warrior quickly and smoothly, look to this build. I use this build because I despise PvE in Guild Wars, and I need skill points on my PvE warrior so that I can PvP with him. Whatever you may want to kill the trolls with, you can be assured that this build does it extremely well.

Warrior/Monk

Strength: 5 (2+3)
Axe Mastery: 13 (10+3)
Tactics: 16 (12+4)
Healing Prayers: 1
Smiting Prayers: 8

- Cyclone Axe (Axe Mastery)
- Bonetti's Defense (Tactics)
- Gladiator's Defense [Elite] (Tactics)
- Sprint (Strength)
- Executioner's Strike (Axe Mastery)
- Shield Stance (Tactics)
- Live Vicariously (Healing Prayers)
- Strength of Honor (Smiting Prayers)

Here's optimal equipment for executing the build:
Full Gladiator's Armor, except Knight's/Ascalon Boots OR Gloves (not both)
Superior Absorbtion, Vigor, Strength, Tactics, Axe Mastery (yes, 3 superior runes)
Vampiric (3:1) Axe of Shelter (+7 AL vs Physical)
Crimson Carapace Shield (+45 HP/-2 Dmg while in Stance)

You should have 305 (350 in stance) HP and 27 Energy.

Now, for the execution. The boring and repetitive part. To begin, make sure that you have a non vamp weapon out along with your shield so that you don't degen half to death before you get to the cave. You start off sprinting towards the cave, watching out for Avicara and timing your Sprints so that if the Avicara are close to the cave, you can break aggro quickly so that they don't follow you inside the caves. The reason for this is because it's easier if you have a small space to prep up and get Strength of Honor and Live Vicariously up. When you get up to the cave, you should be sitting at max, 27 energy. Cast Strength of Honor, and then let your energy regen slowly while you move closer to the trolls. You should be right outside of the aggro range of the trolls, and your energy should be sitting at roughly 20-23.

Cast Live Vicariously at this point, and then start aggroing the trolls. Don't just take on the main group in the first part of the cave. Keep going to get the 2-8 trolls beyond the main group. Don't, however, try to get either the right or left groups in most situations. They'll usually be too far away for you to aggro without losing the aggro of the main group in the process. The main group will break aggro, go back to the middle, and be a pain to reaggro, which is very annoying.

Once you have all the trolls rounded up, they'll start collapse on you. Just before most of them are about to hit you, hit Gladiator's Defense. Switch off of your non-vamp weapon set to your Axe and hit Cyclone Axe immediately. Then, C-Space one of the trolls and hit him with Executioners. You should be able to Cyclone-Executioners 2-3 times before Gladiator's Defense wears off. When Gladiator's Defense starts blinking, be ready to hit Bonetti's Defense. You have to be in Glad's Defense or Bonetti's (or Shield Stance) at all times or else you'll start dying very quickly. Anyway, at this point, it's very easy. All you have to do is Cyclone Axe while Bonetti's is up, and when Cyclone Axe is just about done in its animation, you start spamming your Bonetti's key so that when Cyclone is complete, Bonetti's is immediately active. When Gladiator's Defense is recharged, you start doing the Cyclone-Executioners on various trolls. It doesn't matter which ones. I usually just C-Space the first ones and then just click randomly in the mob for the others. Just don't try to kill one troll way before the others. Share the love. As the trolls start to die in bursts and then one by one, there might not be enough trolls to recharge Bonetti's defense after one Cyclone Axe. In those situations, you put up Shield Stance, and continue Cyclone/Executioners/Normal attacks until everything is dead.

It's pretty basic, minimal healing, maximum damage. If you have problems staying alive with the build, post here and we'll try to sort through the issues you're having.

Here's the video! It's my first GW-video making endeavor, so post your critiques on my editing skills (or lackthereof) as well.
http://media.putfile.com/Efficient-Troll-Farming

EDIT: Sorry about the FileFactory link before. FileFront was down, and I didn't think about PutFile.

Knido · Apr 25, 2006, 02:29 PM // 14:29

gotta say, i love it

kills twice as fast and i never really saw your hp dip to dangerous levels

awesome twist on the classic build, gotta get my vamp haft first before i try it out though

-couldnt afford a vamp haft but if you take tactics to 15 and put healing to 5 its pretty much the same-

wheel · Apr 25, 2006, 02:37 PM // 14:37

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Originally Posted by Knido

gotta say, i love it

kills twice as fast and i never really saw your hp dip to dangerous levels

awesome twist on the classic build, gotta get my vamp haft first before i try it out though

-couldnt afford a vamp haft but if you take tactics to 15 and put healing to 5 its pretty much the same-

Except it kills slower =/

Shadow-Hunter · Apr 25, 2006, 10:44 PM // 22:44

Sry to ask, But how the hell do you get 32 energy!? 20 warrior base energy + 6 from Glads = 26.. where does the last 7 energy come from? cant come from weapon set as thats an axe + CCS... havent watched the video

but gonna try it out tomorrow ...

~Shadow

wheel · Apr 26, 2006, 01:53 AM // 01:53

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Originally Posted by Shadow-Hunter

Sry to ask, But how the hell do you get 32 energy!? 20 warrior base energy + 6 from Glads = 26.. where does the last 7 energy come from? cant come from weapon set as thats an axe + CCS... havent watched the video

but gonna try it out tomorrow ...

~Shadow

sorry, that was an oversight. it's from the ias wand. it give +5e. instead of 32, read 27.

Guillaume De Sonoma · Apr 26, 2006, 01:56 AM // 01:56

Wheel does PvE? Nice build and guide.

wheel · Apr 26, 2006, 01:59 AM // 01:59

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Originally Posted by Guillaume De Sonoma

Wheel does PvE? Nice build and guide.

-.- Only enough to get me by. I needed skill points on my warrior to ready him for PvP, so I thought, why use an inefficient build that would make me take longer to grind in PvE than I have to?

By the way, what did you think of the video? I didn't zoom in as much as I should have, which I realized afterwards, but what else could I improve on?

Knido · Apr 26, 2006, 02:28 AM // 02:28

video was fine for me, and the way you got the music to fit was brilliant

last run was exhilerating - had >100 hp for the last 5 or 6 trolls, was down to 23 or something at my lowest

Guillaume De Sonoma · Apr 26, 2006, 03:09 AM // 03:09

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Originally Posted by wheel

By the way, what did you think of the video? I didn't zoom in as much as I should have, which I realized afterwards, but what else could I improve on?

Well as far as the video I would zoom in on the two enchantments just to clearly show, it doesn't matter much though. I would zoom in during the fight to see the cyclone axes with strength of honor because most people would just look at the numbers and say something like," well I'm doing the same now with cyclone so I'll just take points out of smiting and into tactics for a longer Glad's Defense. And I can take another heal!." Good music, and it looks a lot cooler when you're zoomed into to see those trolls.

Edit: when I said another heal I had Vigorous Spirit in mind.

wheel · Apr 26, 2006, 05:07 AM // 05:07

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Originally Posted by Guillaume De Sonoma

Well as far as the video I would zoom in on the two enchantments just to clearly show, it doesn't matter much though. I would zoom in during the fight to see the cyclone axes with strength of honor because most people would just look at the numbers and say something like," well I'm doing the same now with cyclone so I'll just take points out of smiting and into tactics for a longer Glad's Defense. And I can take another heal!." Good music, and it looks a lot cooler when you're zoomed into to see those trolls.

Edit: when I said another heal I had Vigorous Spirit in mind.

Funny thing is, there's no reason to add more heals into the build because you survive just fine. The entire reason you're even in Talus Chute is to kill trolls. You aren't there to see how long you can sit there with your HP on full with the trolls pounding on you. Tactics is maxed, Axe is one damage on Cyclone Axe away from being max without a +1 Axe Helmet, Strength of Honor is balanced with its breakpoints to give a high damage to every hit, and Strength gets the leftover points, and Healing gets the leftover leftover points. Vigorous Spirit means that you're wasting time that you should be using Executioner's Strike. If you were to use it only ONCE in a run, you'd be less efficient, no questions asked. Same thing if you were to up the Healing Prayers level. You'd have to sacrifice Smiting, Strength, Axe, or Tactics. No matter which you take points out of, you're losing damage and wasting your time. I'm crazy, I know, but I like to get the most out of my time as possible.

lambda the great · Apr 26, 2006, 05:09 AM // 05:09

What Video recorder did you use?

wheel · Apr 26, 2006, 05:23 AM // 05:23

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Originally Posted by lambda the great

What Video recorder did you use?

Game Cam

Gigamaster89 · Apr 26, 2006, 09:28 PM // 21:28

Looks familiar

wheel · Apr 26, 2006, 09:51 PM // 21:51

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Originally Posted by Gigamaster89

Looks familiar

Not really. There aren't any builds that have been posted on Guro so far that are even close to as efficient for farming trolls on Warrior. The general idea is the same, but this build far outpaces your average inefficient troll farming build.

Gigamaster89 · Apr 27, 2006, 01:41 AM // 01:41

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Originally Posted by wheel

Not really. There aren't any builds that have been posted on Guro so far that are even close to as efficient for farming trolls on Warrior. The general idea is the same, but this build far outpaces your average inefficient troll farming build.

I meant familiar to my guide, same skill setup save one skill, near identical strategy, and used the same recording program.

wheel · Apr 27, 2006, 02:22 AM // 02:22

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Originally Posted by Gigamaster89

I meant familiar to my guide, same skill setup save one skill, near identical strategy, and used the same recording program.

except for the fact that your attributes are grossly inefficient and you use subpar equipment.

Gigamaster89 · Apr 27, 2006, 02:42 AM // 02:42

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Originally Posted by wheel

except for the fact that your attributes are grossly inefficient and you use subpar equipment.

I don't know if you took offense or something, your equip is EXACTLY the same save the runes, which, if you read, I said that if your rich, you'd use sup. My attributes being inefficient is an opinion considering others don't think so.

Based on your "optimal equips", if people had that kind of stuff, they wouldn't be farming in the first place.

I'm going to take a wild guess that whatever your about to post next in regard to this post will be along the lines "it's not an opinion, it's a fact, blah blah blah", fact this then,

YOUR attributes are grossly inefficient.

JR · Apr 27, 2006, 07:50 PM // 19:50

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Originally Posted by Gigamaster89

I don't know if you took offense or something, your equip is EXACTLY the same save the runes, which, if you read, I said that if your rich, you'd use sup. My attributes being inefficient is an opinion considering others don't think so. Based on your "optimal equips", if people had that kind of stuff, they wouldn't be farming in the first place. I'm going to take a wild guess that whatever your about to post next in regard to this post will be along the lines "it's not an opinion, it's a fact, blah blah blah", fact this then, YOUR attributes are grossly inefficient.

I'm sorry, but you simply ARE wrong. If you had any kind of in depth knowledge of this game you might possibly understand why. But you don't, and will not. It is not a matter of opinion, it is a matter of simple statistics. Next time instead of taking things personally and getting your panties in a bunch, maybe try and understand exactly why you are wrong. It may actually make you a better player.

You could of course keep arguing that the world is flat, however.

Despondency · Apr 27, 2006, 09:35 PM // 21:35

I was fooling around with this last night... It's a great build... But I'm gonna make a few suggestions... Strength- A superior rune here isn't nescessary. 10 seconds of running is fine with 1 minor rune, and 1 point in it. After that, put one more point into healing prayers, for more survivability. My axe is a 15^50 Zealous of fort, so I don't kill quite as fast, but I don't want to switch hafts.

wheel · Apr 28, 2006, 02:02 AM // 02:02

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Originally Posted by Despondency

I was fooling around with this last night... It's a great build... But I'm gonna make a few suggestions... Strength- A superior rune here isn't nescessary. 10 seconds of running is fine with 1 minor rune, and 1 point in it. After that, put one more point into healing prayers, for more survivability. My axe is a 15^50 Zealous of fort, so I don't kill quite as fast, but I don't want to switch hafts.

Thanks! The superior rune of Strength doesn't add that much damage to the build since Strength is largely worthless, but since I never have any situations where I'm close to dying, there's no reason not to put the superior rune in. The reason you might have problems with dying is because you're using a Zealous and not a Vampiric. The Vamp haft adds damage and heals you, so it's very important. Without the Vamp, I could see that you might have to bump up Healing to 2, maybe. But with it, you shouldn't ever die. Plus, you should have a Vamp Axe anyway. It's far and away the best damage mod for pretty much all weapons.